| We hope you enjoy your visit. You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free. Join our community! If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features: |
| Under five children and bed wetting | |
|---|---|
| Topic Started: 31 Mar 2009, 10:21 PM (434 Views) | |
| gary 'n' wendy | 31 Mar 2009, 10:21 PM Post #1 |
AUSSIE INTERNET IS FUBAR
|
Were looking for some advice from the parents on bed wetting. Callum turns four in July. We have got the potty training well in hand,its very rare these days when we have an accident. We normaly have him in bed by 8 pm, and these days he doesnt seem to drift off for about an hour. If he is still awake and needs the toilet, he gets up and tells us, then we get it sorted. We took this as a good sign that maybe we could start him on normal pants to bed instead of nappy, which we started a few days ago. Needless to say , the beds been a swimming pool ever since !! This is the one area of his life the we (and Callum) cannot control. We realise that when his bladder is full during sleep, the brains gotta wake the body up so he can get to the toilet. The thing is, how do you know when the kids ready for that ? Were not stressing as such, its something that takes time, but lets say his time is a year off , is there any point putting us all through the ordeal of bed changes at 3 am every night ? Any advice is appreciated. :tartan: Gary :tartan: |
 |
 
|
| nee | 1 Apr 2009, 12:01 AM Post #2 |
..like a Britvic'er....but weirder...
|
Maddy turns 4 in May and we're nowhere near cracking it either, so i wouldn't worry. She still has "pull up's" at bedtime, which although not ideal, is something we try not to make too big a deal of as the last thing you want to be doing is making them feel bad about it as it would probably have the opposite effect. We do keep trying her without them, but it's still showing no sign of getting better, but it'll happen at some point! Tom, on the other hand, was dry (and stayed dry) from about 3 and a half....so we got lucky there. The thing you have to remember is that there's no set time that they should / shouldn't be dry at night. Shameful to admit, but i was about 10 when i finally stopped wetting the bed (which as you can imagine was a total bloody nightmare) but it's not really something you can do a lot about! But on the plus-side i've been dry for the last 25 years....lol Couple of things worth asking i guess, but probably obvious ones really... When does he have his last drink Gary? With Tom we made sure he knew his last drink was about an hour before bedtime and made sure he at least tried to go to the loo before bedtime. Also for the first week or so i would wake him up and take him to the toilet when i went to bed (usually 1am or so).... might be worth a try if you're like me and always up late. (can't do this with Maddy as she's wet even before an hour's up!) Good luck :) |
|
|
|
| nee | 1 Apr 2009, 07:27 AM Post #3 |
|
..like a Britvic'er....but weirder...
|
**edit** I just remembered something we tried with Tom that i found on the internet, and that's to give the child a couple of teaspoons of honey straight before bedtime. I have no idea what this does / or how it works but i remember it worked but it seemed to work with Tom.....might just be coincidence though!! I've only just remembered that we tried this, so we'll deffo have to try this with Maddy too. |
|
|
|
| koalakim | 1 Apr 2009, 08:46 AM Post #4 |
Legend
|
Hi Sorry to hear that Gary ......one thought is Callum a heavy sleeper? It might not be registering that he needs to go? I doubt if it would be stress which is the other thing that can set kids off - as you say it just sounds like the link between bladder and brain hasn't kicked in yet! Not having had kids I'm no expert but just seems to be the logical answer! When our cat got old he also used to have numerous accidents and the vet said that was then a breakdown in the link between full bladder and brain - so I guess it's the same! The other thing would be to make sure he has his last full drink well before bedtime give it chance to work it's way through and then just sips afterwards which hopefully won't fill up his waterworks too quickly. KK |
|
|
|
| missiemo | 1 Apr 2009, 09:36 AM Post #5 |
Legend
|
Hi Gary We had a terrible time with Katie and Bed wetting, when we arrived in Oz she was dry at night, but that soon changed and coupled with the upheaval and constant urine infections the bed wetting seemed to go on and on, she was in training pants for a long time but we seem to be getting on top of it now and she has been dry for about 6 months, her last drink at night is by 6pm, she goes to bed at 8pm abd has a wee first, at between 10.30pm and 11.00pm before I go to bed I put her on the toliet again, she now wakes up dry, I am aware that Aldi sell an item designed for Bed wetting, it is a simple piece of material with vinyl which just helps protect the mattress and means less washing off bedding and this is washable and can be used again and again, I hope this helps a little bit, I used to get so stressed about it but started to find being laid back about it helped her to cope, Take Care Mo |
|
|
|
| bigAPE | 1 Apr 2009, 12:51 PM Post #6 |
Administrator
|
Oh I remember those days. Glad they are over, but everything does (except in unusual circumstances) get sorted out eventually. Tips that I can offer. Firstly reduce the amount of liquid before bedtime, so cut back on the glass of milk/water and cut it down to half. If they are weeing a bucket load, they they aren't ready yet and I would just keep them in pull ups and keep the toilet routine going. Don't stress about it and don't put them through the ordeal of wetting the bed every night. Just too demoralising for everyone. Wee before putting to bed, wee again before sleeping if they have been reading etc. take them for a wee again before you go to bed. Pull ups are good, but don't teach the child they are wet. If you can get hold of them Pampers mattress protectors are good (I think I have seen them in Kmart). A big square sheet made of nappy material, so they absorb all the wee, if they use normal pants. I use to put these on top of the sheet, so that you can just whip them out and replace them without having to remake the entire bed. Less traumatic all round. The waterproof mattress protectors are a good idea because accidents do happen, even when they get a bit older. Not sure dentists would like the idea of honey before bedtime, but I guess we all try everything. Boys can take a little longer to night train, I seem to recall that pre-four is a little early to expect night dryness, so don't worry. Gill |
|
|
|
| debb | 1 Apr 2009, 01:24 PM Post #7 |
Addicted Member
|
Hi Gary :waving: We have had a bit of a nightmare when it comes to the whole bed wetting issue. Harvey was really good when it came to toilet training, he went straight from nappies to using the toilet which was great not having to empty dirty potties all the time :yucky: but night time has been a completely different story. He turned 6 a couple of months ago and its only really been in the last 6 months or so that he has been dry at night with only the odd accident. Its been a real hard slog and at times I really didn't know what to do and couldn't see an end to it. As Mo said the best thing to do is try not to get to stressed, easy said than done when you're stripping the bed a 3am. Harvey now has nothing to drink after 6-6.30pm, he goes to bed 8-8.30pm and we put him on the toilet before we go to bed, some times he'll do a wee and others he won't but he's waking up dry with only the odd accident, usually if he's had a drink later. Just remember there is no set time when they should be dry at night and try not to compare with others kids. I'm sure Callum will get there in the end. Good luck Debb |
|
|
|
| Gail.C | 1 Apr 2009, 01:30 PM Post #8 |
A phenomenon
|
Don't worry!!! My daughter potty trained at a young age during the day but we only got her out of pull ups when she was 4 1/2. I tried letting her wet the bed a few nights at age 3 and 4 and gave up as I was getting fed up with it. In the end I stopped any drinks before 6pm and she really wanted to do it (she was getting embarassed about it). After that it was done in a couple of nights training. Now at 5 1/2 she amazes me by getting up in them middle of the night and hasn't wet the bed in months. She just got it!!! I know of kids who are 6 and still wear pull ups. Boys take the longest so let him do it when he feels ready and don't force it. Gail |
|
|
|
| Gail.C | 1 Apr 2009, 01:32 PM Post #9 |
|
A phenomenon
|
I forgot to mention that my 2 1/2 year old boy won't even entertain sitting on a potty so I'm sure he'll be really old when I finally get him out of nappies. I'm just waiting for when we wants to do it. |
|
|
|
| meljoy | 1 Apr 2009, 04:46 PM Post #10 |
|
Member
|
I wouldn't worry too much, we were convinced that Lorna was going to be starting school while still wearing nappies at night, but it came right! She took about half a day to learn how to use a potty in the daytime while very young, can't remember exactly how young, but younger than her sister. Night time was another ball game. We'd put her to bed, check on her an hour later and the whole bed would be sopping, with her still fast asleep. We'd change everything, put her back and in the morning it would all be sopping again. After a few days of that we'd give up for a couple of months, and try again, only to have the whole process repeat itself. After about a year of these intermittent attempts to get her out of nappies at night, we just decided to hang on till the nappies were dry in the morning. One morning she was dry, we took the nappy off that night and we all lived happily ever after with never a single accident! I think by that time she was about four and a half, so, don't stress, he's just not ready, and he will get there in the end! I think we were much more worried about this kind of stuff with our eldest than with Lorna, as we had relatives frequently telling us what we were doing wrong. By the time Lorn got to it, we were in NZ, far, far away from our experts. All we'd really done with our eldest was train ourselves to spot the signals of something about to happen. |
|
|
|
| Maggie | 1 Apr 2009, 05:43 PM Post #11 |
|
Elite Member
|
Don't be ashamed :mate: I had a dummy until I was well over 4 years. My mother got it off me and then I got the mumps and just had to give it back :Grin: We have kids aged 24 to 11, so a long time for me. But all children mature at different and bits of their bodies mature in the same way. We had one who was dry day and night at 18 months, because he was the third child and copied the others. Only tip I have is to keep his bottom half bare at night so he doesn't have th efeling of a 'nappy' on, after waterproofing the bed of course. Very few kids have long term problems these days, and there are things out there to help them if they hit 7 or 8 and are still wetting the bed. Chillax (as my 24 year old says). He'll be right. Maggie |
|
|
|
| Davyfella | 1 Apr 2009, 05:59 PM Post #12 |
Addicted Member
|
There are some good products on the market, for boys... http://specialtech.co.uk/spshop/files/detail/1900_0%5B1%5D.jpg for Girls... http://www.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=https://www.frosystems.com/store/images/uploads/hardware-exhaust-bung.jpg&imgrefurl=https://www.frosystems.com/store/index.php%3Fact%3DviewProd%26productId%3D24&h=352&w=358&sz=47&tbnid=DzSf9wGknNoMvM::&tbnh=119&tbnw=121&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbung&hl=en-GB&usg=__hgEesKJ3Dmy54ZMRDLUZcHHIImU=&ei=Vx3TSda7HpTutQPw_pyDDA&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=7&ct=image&cd=1 hope these help. :ugh: :Grin: |
|
|
|
| Kaz62 | 1 Apr 2009, 07:41 PM Post #13 |
Addicted Member
|
:rofl: Davyfella - you so funny, have you tried it on then ???? I would not worry about him not being dry at night, as has been said each child is different. Best not to make a big thing of it, sounds like you are doing the right things. My advice would be to keep him in pull ups until he is waking up in the morning regularly dry, no point in any thing else until he is actually going all the way through and for some children it can take until they are 8 or even 10, it can be a development thing, ie bladder is not 'mature' enough to hold the wee until morning. I know some adults who have one cuppa and need to find a loo and others who can go all day without needing to go. :wink: We knew my DD was ready when we used to find the nappy on the floor, dry every morning, she used to wake up and take herself off for a wee and she was only 2yrs old!! very mature madame!!!! ah the joys of potty training............................. so glad those days are behind me :ugh: best of luck Karen |
|
|
|
| hevs | 1 Apr 2009, 08:52 PM Post #14 |
Forever Ignored.
|
Ditto all of the above comments. The other thing is when you put them on the toilet before you go to bed get them to walk/ stumble and help put lights on etc. This way they make the connection between waking and actually getting up and going, rather than being lifted. My 2 1/2 year old won't go near the toilet/ potty even for a poo so I have visions of him starting school in bloody pull ups! :bashful: |
|
|
|
| hevs | 1 Apr 2009, 08:54 PM Post #15 |
|
Forever Ignored.
|
We also have two of these http://www.ilcaustralia.org.au/home/search4.asp?state=QLD&page=8&MC=13&MinC=35 and they can be washed and tumble dryed AND stay in place (way better than the disposable ones) |
|
|
|
| Spikey | 16 Apr 2009, 11:33 PM Post #16 |
|
Addicted Member
|
Hi, my daughter is 6 and not dry at night, it's not considered a problem medically until they are at least 7 or even older, and it's very common for 5 year olds to still wet (I've heard that in any typical class of about 30 prep children there will be at least 2 children that aren't dry at night), it's just not talked about much! I took my girl out of pull ups last year on the advice of the school nurse, apparently they will often wee in pull ups just because they're there and I think that was true in my daughter's case. I use waterproof bedmats(bought them from Ebay) that are washable. She's wet nearly every night and I'd be lying if I said I didn't get frustrated with the amount of washing sometimes but I feel resigned to it. Her record has been 6 dry nights in a row so I know she can do it sometimes. Current advice is not to lift them or wake them to go to the loo, and not to restrict daytime drinks either though I do try and make sure my daughter's last drink is at least 30 mins before going to bed and she's often dry if I do that (but I often find she's snuck in a drinks bottle of water to her room with her). Also be careful about making them go to the loo too many times before bed as that often is teaching their bladder to only hold a little amount and make it think that it needs emptying more regularly. I think for some children it simply is a matter of time! My son by contrast to my daughter was dry at night before he was 3 and it makes no difference if he has a drink of water straight before bed. |
|
|
|
| « Previous Topic · Chat · Next Topic » |
8:59 AM Sep 5
