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Topic Started: 29 Jun 2009, 02:01 AM (353 Views)
zoe	29 Jun 2009, 02:01 AM Post #1
Newbie Posts: 4 Group: Members Member #2,631 Joined: 11 January 2009 My Location manchester	Hi, Was wondering if there are any primary school teachers in melbourne? I am a teacher from manchester and moving over in sept. was wondering how easy it is to get a job? and what agency work is like? Would appreciate anyones advice! thanks zoe



sallyandkev	29 Jun 2009, 10:47 AM Post #2
Newbie Posts: 8 Group: Members Member #2,828 Joined: 16 June 2009 Migration Status Working Visa My Location Mount Martha	zoe 29 Jun 2009, 02:01 AM Hi, Was wondering if there are any primary school teachers in melbourne? I am a teacher from manchester and moving over in sept. was wondering how easy it is to get a job? and what agency work is like? Would appreciate anyones advice! thanks zoe Hi Zoe, Whereabouts in Melbourne are you going? If you are in the city or prepared to work in the schools way out in the middle of nowhere then you will probably be okay from what i have been told. I am on the Mornington Peninsula - a very desireable place to live and getting a job as a primary school teacher is proving very difficult! - It is definately a case of who you know not what you know and being in the right place at the right time. I have nearly 10 years experience of teaching years 1 - 3 and have had around 10 rejections so far without even a sniff at an interview. I think supply teaching (CRT here - casual relief teaching) is the way to go. You register with an agency - have an interview and they take a % of your wage but you will be in the right place when a job comes up. You won't be able to teach kindergarten as the BA(ed) is not good enough here for that!! - you would need to get your qualification converted and that means going back to uni! You also need to be registered with the Victorian Institute of teaching before you can teach - Do this before you come out as they need lots of paperwork. Jobs in state schools have to be advertised on the internet but a lot of them are gone before they are advertised so you are applying for a job that doesn't exist. :wacko: As I said , it will depend on the area you live. So good luck. keep me posted :thumbsup:



KarenandTim	29 Jun 2009, 04:09 PM Post #3
Addicted Member Posts: 149 Group: Members Member #1,641 Joined: 31 August 2007 Migration Status Permanent Resident My Location Highton	sallyandkev 29 Jun 2009, 10:47 AM zoe 29 Jun 2009, 02:01 AM Hi, Was wondering if there are any primary school teachers in melbourne? I am a teacher from manchester and moving over in sept. was wondering how easy it is to get a job? and what agency work is like? Would appreciate anyones advice! thanks zoe Hi Zoe, Whereabouts in Melbourne are you going? If you are in the city or prepared to work in the schools way out in the middle of nowhere then you will probably be okay from what i have been told. I am on the Mornington Peninsula - a very desireable place to live and getting a job as a primary school teacher is proving very difficult! - It is definately a case of who you know not what you know and being in the right place at the right time. I have nearly 10 years experience of teaching years 1 - 3 and have had around 10 rejections so far without even a sniff at an interview. I think supply teaching (CRT here - casual relief teaching) is the way to go. You register with an agency - have an interview and they take a % of your wage but you will be in the right place when a job comes up. You won't be able to teach kindergarten as the BA(ed) is not good enough here for that!! - you would need to get your qualification converted and that means going back to uni! You also need to be registered with the Victorian Institute of teaching before you can teach - Do this before you come out as they need lots of paperwork. Jobs in state schools have to be advertised on the internet but a lot of them are gone before they are advertised so you are applying for a job that doesn't exist. :wacko: As I said , it will depend on the area you live. So good luck. keep me posted :thumbsup: I am in Geelong, and am finding the same happening over this side of the bay too. I have been told it is better to start off with supply work and keep your fingers crossed. Good luck.



RUNTOTHESUN	29 Jun 2009, 05:15 PM Post #4
Addicted Member Posts: 483 Group: Members Member #367 Joined: 3 September 2005	Just out of interest is Aus actually saying they have a shortage of teachers??????



Petals	29 Jun 2009, 05:42 PM Post #5
A phenomenon Posts: 1,253 Group: Members Member #2,324 Joined: 22 June 2008 Migration Status Citizen My Location Somerville My Mood Contented	There was a shortage a few years ago when a lot of teachers left the work force but they increased the places at university here in Melbourne and there does not seem to be a shortage now. Maths and science at secondary there is a shortage. If we still have shortages here they are in the country and not the nicer areas of the country or in hard to staff schools. There was is/was a special school in Hastings and they were advertising every week at one time for teachers, do not know if its still running.



RUNTOTHESUN	29 Jun 2009, 09:26 PM Post #6
Addicted Member Posts: 483 Group: Members Member #367 Joined: 3 September 2005	Thanks for that, doesnt sound too promising for teachers coming over here does it?



zoe	30 Jun 2009, 02:04 AM Post #7
Newbie Posts: 4 Group: Members Member #2,631 Joined: 11 January 2009 My Location manchester	Thanks very much for your responses, sallyandkev do you know if its easier to get a job in the city then? planning on being somewhere pretty close to the city. also is it difficult to register with the state? I read somewhere that you have to do some first aid course or something? Final question (!) - is CRT generally full time - i.e. a full working week? thanks for your help!! :thumbsup:



sallyandkev	30 Jun 2009, 11:43 AM Post #8
Newbie Posts: 8 Group: Members Member #2,828 Joined: 16 June 2009 Migration Status Working Visa My Location Mount Martha	zoe 30 Jun 2009, 02:04 AM Thanks very much for your responses, sallyandkev do you know if its easier to get a job in the city then? planning on being somewhere pretty close to the city. also is it difficult to register with the state? I read somewhere that you have to do some first aid course or something? Final question (!) - is CRT generally full time - i.e. a full working week? thanks for your help!! :thumbsup: Hi Zoe, It is not difficult to register with the Victorian Institute of Teaching - it is the equivilent of the GTC. You can download the form you need from their site : www.vit.vic.edu.au They need evidence of your qualifications and of your teaching practice (even if you qualified years ago!) Also a police check and, of course, they charge a fee - can't remember how much about $158 I think. You will then get a card - takes about 6 weeks. Make sure you get all the documents they require and send them in one go or the correspondence just goes back and forth and makes the process longer. They need certified photocopies so you will need to get them signed by a solicitor or someone like that - they supply a list. I don't know about jobs in the city as i am about 50k out of the CBD but there always seems to be more advertised for areas nearer Melbourne. You can see the vacancies on www.education.vic.gov.au - follow the links. For CRT you register with an agency - there is one in Hastings. They ask what days you want to work, where you are prepared to travel etc ..so up to you what hours you work. I have been told there is plenty of CRT work so probably a good option to start with. Schools like you to have a first aid certificate and a certificate in epipen training but i don't think it is a legal requirement. Hope this all helps. Good Luck. Let me know how you get on. Sally x :thumbsup:



KarenandTim	30 Jun 2009, 12:03 PM Post #9
Addicted Member Posts: 149 Group: Members Member #1,641 Joined: 31 August 2007 Migration Status Permanent Resident My Location Highton	https://schooljobs.education.vic.gov.au This site is for government school jobs. Hope this helps.



sallyandkev	30 Jun 2009, 03:40 PM Post #10
Newbie Posts: 8 Group: Members Member #2,828 Joined: 16 June 2009 Migration Status Working Visa My Location Mount Martha	Hi KarenandTim I see you are in Geelong - are you experiencing the same problems as me? It is so frustrating! Have you had any interviews? Sally x



zoe	1 Jul 2009, 02:50 AM Post #11
Newbie Posts: 4 Group: Members Member #2,631 Joined: 11 January 2009 My Location manchester	Thanks for your response sally, has been very helpful! will let you know how I go! zoe x



KarenandTim	1 Jul 2009, 11:15 AM Post #12
Addicted Member Posts: 149 Group: Members Member #1,641 Joined: 31 August 2007 Migration Status Permanent Resident My Location Highton	sallyandkev 30 Jun 2009, 03:40 PM Hi KarenandTim I see you are in Geelong - are you experiencing the same problems as me? It is so frustrating! Have you had any interviews? Sally x It is very hard to get a job in Geelong, but at least have had cover work at my children's school. It is very frustrating. I always had a job in UK and it's not a nice feeling having semi-retirement imposed onto me. :crybaby:



True Blue	3 Jul 2009, 06:16 PM Post #13
Elite Member Posts: 541 Group: Members Member #1,172 Joined: 12 February 2007 Migration Status Permanent Resident My Location Way out east......Pakenham!	sallyandkev 29 Jun 2009, 10:47 AM I think supply teaching (CRT here - casual relief teaching) is the way to go. You register with an agency - have an interview and they take a % of your wage but you will be in the right place when a job comes up. Hi guys Just to let you know my experience....... I never registered with an agency, all the CRT work I have had to date has been through direct contact with the schools and I've worked in 2 state schools (1 primary and 1 secondary) and 2 private schools. All I did was call into the schools with my cv, make sure you add your VIT number, and told then which days I was available. There is plenty of CRT work available and as I've proved, you don't need to pay an agency for this luxury!!!! It is a case of who you know and not what you know but with CRT work at least you'll get to see the schools and you'll defo have your foot in the door should a vacancy arise. Good luck. Di x



bigAPE	3 Jul 2009, 06:57 PM Post #14
Administrator Posts: 4,261 Group: Admin Member #1,299 Joined: 6 April 2007 Migration Status Citizen My Location Hampton, Victoria	True Blue 3 Jul 2009, 06:16 PM sallyandkev 29 Jun 2009, 10:47 AM I think supply teaching (CRT here - casual relief teaching) is the way to go. You register with an agency - have an interview and they take a % of your wage but you will be in the right place when a job comes up. Hi guys Just to let you know my experience....... I never registered with an agency, all the CRT work I have had to date has been through direct contact with the schools and I've worked in 2 state schools (1 primary and 1 secondary) and 2 private schools. All I did was call into the schools with my cv, make sure you add your VIT number, and told then which days I was available. There is plenty of CRT work available and as I've proved, you don't need to pay an agency for this luxury!!!! It is a case of who you know and not what you know but with CRT work at least you'll get to see the schools and you'll defo have your foot in the door should a vacancy arise. Good luck. Di x Some good advice Di. I'm not a school teacher but can definitely say, like just about every job in Australia, it is all about who you know and making yourself known. At my boys school all the CRT work is filled by parents of kids in the school, who are qualified teachers. In fact all the jobs in the school admin, fitness, library helpers etc are filled by parents. Working your way up the voluntary ranks has also helped many people secure jobs. Our business manager started out running the snack shack. Gill



mazmchale	3 Aug 2009, 08:22 PM Post #15
Newbie Posts: 2 Group: Members Member #1,343 Joined: 24 April 2007	Hi Zoe, I was in the same position as you last year. We came to Melbourne from Ireland in September (2008). I registered with ANZUK and did CRT work as soon as I could. The schools I worked in were fully staffed. I applied online for about 50 jobs and got 4 interviews. The hard part is getting an interview. The interviews went well and I did get a job for the start of the school year (Jan). I think most schools call people for interview that they already know, so the best thing to do is CRT work as soon as you can. Make sure the schools are aware that you are looking for a job. Apply for as many jobs as you can online also and hopefully you will get some interviews and a job! It's going really well, b I love teaching here. September was a good time to come over, as it gave me a chance to do CRT work and get used to the schools here before I had to go for interviews. Jobs were advertised in Sept, Oct, Nov. Best of luck. If you have any more questions, ask away. Some sites I used are the following, which were actually posted by Lilypad: http://www.teaching.vic.gov.au (Teaching in Victorian Government Schools - Careers and Recruitment ) http://www.teachers.on.net/ (jobs) www.careerone.com.au (ads posted in newspapers) http://www.christianschools.edu.au/ (Christian schools) http://www.ceo.melb.catholic.edu.au/ (Catholic schools Victoria) www.australian.teachers.net/ (general teaching site + jobs) http://www.independentschools.com.au/ (independent schools jobs) https://jobsearch.gov.au/Login/Login.aspx?WHCode=0 (jobs) http://www.australiateachers.com.au/ (jobs) http://www.seek.com.au/education-jobs/ (jobs) http://www.smartteachers.co.uk/index.aspx (jobs) http://www.teachers.ash.org.au/aussi...employment.htm (jobs)



jills	4 Aug 2009, 10:47 PM Post #16
Addicted Member Posts: 237 Group: Members Member #1,886 Joined: 21 January 2008 My Location Mount Eliza	zoe 29 Jun 2009, 02:01 AM Hi, Was wondering if there are any primary school teachers in melbourne? I am a teacher from manchester and moving over in sept. was wondering how easy it is to get a job? and what agency work is like? Would appreciate anyones advice! thanks zoe Hi :waving: I am a primary teacher too and moving to the Morning Peninsula next month too. Which part are you moving to? I have a friend who has been teaching out there for a year now - she is registered with 2 agencies and gets work no problem at all - at least 3 days a week and now has 2 permanent days per week. You can also just hand your CV and VIT no. into schools and get supply direct through them, rather than getting money taken off of your wages through an agency. My friend gets $36 per hour in her hand through an agency, which is still good. I have been told from several schools in the Morning Peninsula that I will be able to work pretty much every day if I want but through CRT (supply) - I think you need to be prepared to do supply work for a while to get the Aussie school experience first, although I will apply for more permanent jobs too. With regards to registering, it's a fairly straight forward process but I would do it now as you need a reference (I got my Deputy to do it for me here) and you need to get all your documents certified. It took about 6 weeks for me to get my reg. no. Hope this helps. Jill


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