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new car please help; wife needs new car
Topic Started: 5 Jul 2009, 07:47 AM (296 Views)
ad&vic
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Hi all

her indoors needs a new car.....

we are still waiting for our visa but intend to be there in 12months or so

was gonna bring our new car with us

we have seen the below;;

Nissan XTrail one down from top spec, leather, glass roof, alloys, privacy glass, bluetooth, 2ltr diesel 6 speed manual, 6 disc CD etc

pre registered but brand new £18,499

or

Nissan Pathfinder one down from top spec, bluetooth, 7 seats, privacy glass, 2.5ltr diesel 6 speed manual

pre registered but brand new £17,999


struggling to find true cost of the equivilent au model

they like the petrol version over there.....?!

PS, i also saw an E class merc just 2years old E220 CDI, with 25k miles, leather, auto tip tronic, usual Eclass spec for £18,500, which i think is a bargain..... wifey says too big...? but would drive a Pathfinder.......

must admit the Pathfinder would be good for days out etc


by the time we have imported it to au, is it worth it, this is what i am trying to get at

any help would be great

cheers
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ad&vic
5 Jul 2009, 07:47 AM
Hi all

her indoors needs a new car.....

we are still waiting for our visa but intend to be there in 12months or so

was gonna bring our new car with us

we have seen the below;;

Nissan XTrail one down from top spec, leather, glass roof, alloys, privacy glass, bluetooth, 2ltr diesel 6 speed manual, 6 disc CD etc

pre registered but brand new £18,499

or

Nissan Pathfinder one down from top spec, bluetooth, 7 seats, privacy glass, 2.5ltr diesel 6 speed manual

pre registered but brand new £17,999


struggling to find true cost of the equivilent au model

they like the petrol version over there.....?!

PS, i also saw an E class merc just 2years old E220 CDI, with 25k miles, leather, auto tip tronic, usual Eclass spec for £18,500, which i think is a bargain..... wifey says too big...? but would drive a Pathfinder.......

must admit the Pathfinder would be good for days out etc


by the time we have imported it to au, is it worth it, this is what i am trying to get at

any help would be great

cheers
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Should someone tell him or do we await Al?
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http://www.discountnewcars.com.au/nissan/pathfinder/default.aspx
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Amanda & Simon
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Should someone tell him or do we await Al?
I'll do it :Grin:

Ad, it's not a straightforward process I'm afraid. For starters to be allowed to bring a car in under the personal import scheme you must have had and used it for a year. Since you say you're coming in a year or so the timing on this is fairly important. If it's a little over a year you'll just sneak in under the time limit if you buy a car pretty sharpish. However, I don't know if the one year limit is for application or the car actually arriving in Oz. In other words is it a year before you can fill in the paperwork or a year before it can be wheeled out at the dockside in Melbourne. I don't know but I think it might be the first one. Something to check.

Next point is it probably won't save money. bigAPE Al, who has put more work than anyone into writing this up for other migrants (link below, and bloody useful it was to us I can tell you), was amazed when we came out ahead by a few hundred bucks. So were we. This is not something anyone should enter into with the expectation of being a big money saver. Mostly it isn't and in the unlikely event that you do it's still a lot of aggro and hassle for saving a relatively small amount. I noticed on British Ex-Pats where people have done Al's calculations with more expensive and exotic cars - Porkers etc - that there's been a few that look like they'd save quite a bit, but this is an "on paper" saving. Might not actually happen in practice because there are one or two costs you might not be able to budget for accurately until you get the car here. E.g. compliance with the Australian Design Rules (the local version of Construction & Use Regs) we needed special anchor points for Australian kiddie seats fitted, and this isn't a cost I could find out beforehand because the Australian version of my car would have been sold with the damn things in the first place and the only thing I had to go on was how much it cost bigAPE - and being completely different cars that wasn't that much help. I just had to look at where they'd be fitted and make an educated guess. Anyhow, the point here is that you should do it only if it's because the car you really want is easy to source in the UK and rare as hen's teeth here.

That brings me onto a related point. If the car you intend to bring in was never sold here then in the unfortunate event of the thing getting bent crash repairs are likely to be horrifically expensive. Panel beating, polishing and respraying will be no different but if it actually needs a panel that has to come from abroad... :ugh: Yeah, it might be the case with an ADM car anyway, but insurance companies might not look at it that way. More likely IMO they'll look at it as a reason to screw you on premiums. Most of the big names will charge you more for an import anyway - I'd already got a good quote off a specialist (another bigAPE recommendation) when I rang the RACV and ended up openly laughing down the phone at them when they gave me a price double that of the specialist. Now that's for a car visually indistinguishable from the local version. What you're thinking of might be as well, but if not you should bear that in mind beforehand.

Also on the topic of ongoing costs for imported cars, regular service parts might cause problems too. We looked into the differences between our Honda and the local model quite thoroughly and were convinced that short of needed a new cylinder head, block or pistons it was the same engine as the local version despite being one letter different on the engine number (I think that means it's something like 2cc difference in capacity), and since at that point I'd either scrap it or drop a reconditioned lump in it I didn't care. That turned out to be a mistake because that one letter scared off almost everyone I rang to get the cam belt done. Lots of sucking of teeth and ummming noises, and 'we'll ring you back in an hour or so, mate' never to be heard from again stuff. Two or three suggested getting a full cam belt kit Fedex'd over from Honda UK, and only one (an independent Honda specialist, unfortunately ****ing miles away on the other side of the city from us :mah: ) knew instantly that it would be fine with a locally supplied belt kit. Not saying this will happen to you but it's an example of what might happen, especially if the car you bring has an engine substantially different from anything the same model was sold with here. If, say, the X-Trail was never sold here with a 2.0 diesel and Nissan Australia never used that same 2.0 diesel in another model it could create some huge headaches.

Last point, it's a lot of hassle even if everything goes smoothly, and not everything did go smoothly for us - the story's here and while I'm not saying I'd never do it again I wouldn't be in a huge hurry either. Again, our problems might well not happen to anyone else, especially as the car we imported wasn't exactly in the first flush of youth. But other things, kiddie seat anchor points for example, might be more awkward and expensive than we found (though with the new regs mentioned in this topic I don't know if they'll be a requirement much longer). Bearing all of that in mind, and assuming I haven't put you off (which isn't the intention at all) the next thing to do is have a thorough read of bigAPE Al's excellent wiki on the subject - http://australia.wikia.com/wiki/BritVics/ImportingYourCar. As i said, we found this really useful as Al has put all the essential info, links, and steps in the process all in one place. It's not a brief read, but then the Aussies would rather everyone bought a local car and haven't bothered making the process for personal importers particularly easy.

Hope that helps.
Si.

Edited for bum link :bashful:
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Hi Ad.

I can quote you on a new vehicle (any make/model) while you are still in the UK. If you are happy with the price you can even place and order (no deposit required) so that you can collect it once you arrive in the country saving on hire cars and time searching around. The vehicle is still delivered in the normal way by an authorised dealer but you actually pay less for it. By the way, there's also no need to haggle with a ripoff salesman, you get the fleet discount straight away.

We quoted on a Pathfinder Ti diesel in April this year. A brand new 2008 model had $11,000 off and the 2009 had $6,000 off the MRRP.

Check out my website on the links below. Andy
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..like a Britvic'er....but weirder...
As a few have stated, you'd be mad to buy a new car before you came out here.
Personally i'd rough it out with an old banger for the time being and get a decent one when you arrive in Aus.
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thanks Andy

i will contact you closer to the time


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