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Deer Park & Taylors Lakes
Topic Started: 7 Mar 2007, 08:05 AM (3,438 Views)
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Could anyone please tell me anything about Deer Park, Taylors Lakes & Sydenham please. Have been looking at house prices which seem fab but don't know if areas are any good, schools etc (have 2 kids aged 6&9)so any info would be great.

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Maybe some of our "Westie" members can answer this one.
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Mar 7 2007, 08:05 AM
Could anyone please tell me anything about Deer Park, Taylors Lakes & Sydenham please. Have been looking at house prices which seem fab but don't know if areas are any good, schools etc (have 2 kids aged 6&9)so any info would be great.

Thanks

Deer Park I would probably steer clear of, Taylors Lakes is a newer suburb, a bit further out and with a much better stock of newer housing, community facilities. Deer Park is out the Ballarat Rd (Western Hwy), Taylors Lakes and Sydenham are out the Bendigo Rd or Calder Fwy (a bit further north). Sydenham used to be a small country town but now it is mushrooming and considered part of Melbourne's NW fringes. Certainly also worth considering but if I had a choice between the 3 I'd go for Taylors Lakes (little bit closer in, more established, better properties - but generally more expensive). One thing I certainly notice is that you are travelling along the Calder past Taylors Lakes there are more than a dozen houses with tennis courts and floodlights near to the road.

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We too had the dream of living in Mornington and spent many hours in the Uk on realestate.com looking at super houses in the area. When we arrived we collected our hire car on the second day and headed off to Mornington in search of the dream house. I have to say the area is beutiful but with 2 children, daughter 18 and son 15 I was concerned about schooling, universaties for my daughter, work for myself in the manufacturing sector. The long drive home after a days house hunting made us seriously look at the area. We were staying in Hawthorn at the time. The thought of that drive every day put me off. My daughter wanted a choice of unis within a short travelling time, I dont think a school for my son would have been a problem. We spent an afternoon in the internet cafe in the CBD looking at properties and came across the west side of town, Willamstown, Caroline Springs etc. After coming from sleepy Devon and seeing what is available in Melbourne and surrounding areas we wanted to be close to the CBD.
Williamstown is nice but we had promised ourselves a new home without breaking the bank. Caroline Springs fitted the bill so we headed out that way along the Ballaret Road. Just after the Western Highway junction we came across a poster board for Cairnlea, show homes open the usual stuff. Within 5 days we were fortunate enough to buy a show home right next door to a 5 acre lake, (my wife now has ducks, swamp hens etc at the front door at various times of the day looking for bread.) The Cairnlea town centre is now open with Coles etc and Brimbank mall is 3 mins down the road and is a brilliant mall. We also have a new primary school. Highpoint mall is 10 min drive. My daughter was able to choose 4 uni for her VTAC application all within a 30 min drive, we are 15-20 mins from the CBD DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF DAY. We have so much available to us within a short commute. My son plays tennis for Keilor and we travel around the West with him on a saturday morning and the people are really friendly. My son goes to a state school and is getting a far better education than he was in the UK. My daughter sat her year 12 exams in a stae school and gained an enter score that got her a place at Vic Uni studying Business IT.(she loves computers)
What I am trying to say is dont be put off by the few that knock the west until you have seen it.
My wife showed me an article in a magazine that she read this morning, here are a few of the facts.

GO WEST, LIFE IS VIBRANT.
More than 825 million was spent in 2005/2006 making the west one of Melbournes biggest property earners.
153 million for 755 new homes at Point Cook
101 Million for 562 new homes at Villawood
460 new homes at Caroline Springs
and 266 new homes at neighbouring Cairnlea.

We did visit Caroline Springs but found it too big and I still get lost when I go there. Taylors lakes is nice not to sure about Sydenham
I found work in the west very easily, applied for 2 jobs after settling in our new home and was offered both. NO ONE needs to be out of work over this side of town.
My kids love it here and you would not get them back to the UK. My daughter has a part time job in the city and loves the Melbourne life, my son and his friends get on the train and go in to Melbourne swimming at MSAC, Albert Park and have no problems at all.
Deer Park is OK, my boss from my first job has just moved there. Did I tell you we have the Victorian State Croquet Centre in Cairnlea and that moved from Brighton, have yet to try it but it looks very impressive, The poms where over playing last year, beat the Aussies.
I must say my wife and I and a few other poms get a bit P***** off when people knock the west and go on about jabs etc but every one is entitled to their own opinion. It just miffes me when I think about it and wonder how closely they have looked at the west or even been there or do they just jump on the wagon as the done thing.
MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION :D
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Mar 7 2007, 09:27 PM
Hi there
We too had the dream of living in Mornington and spent many hours in the Uk on realestate.com looking at super houses in the area. When we arrived we collected our hire car on the second day and headed off to Mornington in search of the dream house. I have to say the area is beutiful but with 2 children, daughter 18 and son 15 I was concerned about schooling, universaties for my daughter, work for myself in the manufacturing sector. The long drive home after a days house hunting made us seriously look at the area. We were staying in Hawthorn at the time. The thought of that drive every day put me off. My daughter wanted a choice of unis within a short travelling time, I dont think a school for my son would have been a problem. We spent an afternoon in the internet cafe in the CBD looking at properties and came across the west side of town, Willamstown, Caroline Springs etc. After coming from sleepy Devon and seeing what is available in Melbourne and surrounding areas we wanted to be close to the CBD.
Williamstown is nice but we had promised ourselves a new home without breaking the bank. Caroline Springs fitted the bill so we headed out that way along the Ballaret Road. Just after the Western Highway junction we came across a poster board for Cairnlea, show homes open the usual stuff. Within 5 days we were fortunate enough to buy a show home right next door to a 5 acre lake, (my wife now has ducks, swamp hens etc at the front door at various times of the day looking for bread.) The Cairnlea town centre is now open with Coles etc and Brimbank mall is 3 mins down the road and is a brilliant mall. We also have a new primary school. Highpoint mall is 10 min drive. My daughter was able to choose 4 uni for her VTAC application all within a 30 min drive, we are 15-20 mins from the CBD DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF DAY. We have so much available to us within a short commute. My son plays tennis for Keilor and we travel around the West with him on a saturday morning and the people are really friendly. My son goes to a state school and is getting a far better education than he was in the UK. My daughter sat her year 12 exams in a stae school and gained an enter score that got her a place at Vic Uni studying Business IT.(she loves computers)
What I am trying to say is dont be put off by the few that knock the west until you have seen it.
My wife showed me an article in a magazine that she read this morning, here are a few of the facts.

GO WEST, LIFE IS VIBRANT.
More than 825 million was spent in 2005/2006 making the west one of Melbournes biggest property earners.
153 million for 755 new homes at Point Cook
101 Million for 562 new homes at Villawood
460 new homes at Caroline Springs
and 266 new homes at neighbouring Cairnlea.

We did visit Caroline Springs but found it too big and I still get lost when I go there. Taylors lakes is nice not to sure about Sydenham
I found work in the west very easily, applied for 2 jobs after settling in our new home and was offered both. NO ONE needs to be out of work over this side of town.
My kids love it here and you would not get them back to the UK. My daughter has a part time job in the city and loves the Melbourne life, my son and his friends get on the train and go in to Melbourne swimming at MSAC, Albert Park and have no problems at all.
Deer Park is OK, my boss from my first job has just moved there. Did I tell you we have the Victorian State Croquet Centre in Cairnlea and that moved from Brighton, have yet to try it but it looks very impressive, The poms where over playing last year, beat the Aussies.
I must say my wife and I and a few other poms get a bit P***** off when people knock the west and go on about jabs etc but every one is entitled to their own opinion. It just miffes me when I think about it and wonder how closely they have looked at the west or even been there or do they just jump on the wagon as the done thing.
MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION :D

Excellent and informative post if you don't mind me saying. I've been almost a lone voice in the wildnerness about Melbourne's best kept secret for those thinking of moving there - it's west. I can understand the attractions of the south east but I don't understand the blinkered view that it is the only place to go.

I posted a couple of articles in another thread so will repeat them for info:

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/02/...2338625778.html

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/02/...338625791.html#

I know what you mean about Caroline Springs but each time I go there I am more impressed with it as a community as more shops, schools, parks, play areas etc get developed; Cairnlea I must admit I've only driven past; Point Cook, Sanctuary Lakes, Wyndham Vale and so on are worth considering. Just to throw some other areas into the mix - one of the fastest growing areas is Gisborne. Think nice sized country town 20 mins from the edge of the city, lovely countryside (views of Mt Macedon).

Williamstown is expensive but these views would be 3 times the price in say Brighton (and the views that side aren't as good anyway):

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Mar 7 2007, 09:27 PM
Hi there
We too had the dream of living in Mornington and spent many hours in the Uk on realestate.com looking at super houses in the area. When we arrived we collected our hire car on the second day and headed off to Mornington in search of the dream house. I have to say the area is beutiful but with 2 children, daughter 18 and son 15 I was concerned about schooling, universaties for my daughter, work for myself in the manufacturing sector. The long drive home after a days house hunting made us seriously look at the area. We were staying in Hawthorn at the time. The thought of that drive every day put me off. My daughter wanted a choice of unis within a short travelling time, I dont think a school for my son would have been a problem. We spent an afternoon in the internet cafe in the CBD looking at properties and came across the west side of town, Willamstown, Caroline Springs etc. After coming from sleepy Devon and seeing what is available in Melbourne and surrounding areas we wanted to be close to the CBD.
Williamstown is nice but we had promised ourselves a new home without breaking the bank. Caroline Springs fitted the bill so we headed out that way along the Ballaret Road. Just after the Western Highway junction we came across a poster board for Cairnlea, show homes open the usual stuff. Within 5 days we were fortunate enough to buy a show home right next door to a 5 acre lake, (my wife now has ducks, swamp hens etc at the front door at various times of the day looking for bread.) The Cairnlea town centre is now open with Coles etc and Brimbank mall is 3 mins down the road and is a brilliant mall. We also have a new primary school. Highpoint mall is 10 min drive. My daughter was able to choose 4 uni for her VTAC application all within a 30 min drive, we are 15-20 mins from the CBD DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF DAY. We have so much available to us within a short commute. My son plays tennis for Keilor and we travel around the West with him on a saturday morning and the people are really friendly. My son goes to a state school and is getting a far better education than he was in the UK. My daughter sat her year 12 exams in a stae school and gained an enter score that got her a place at Vic Uni studying Business IT.(she loves computers)
What I am trying to say is dont be put off by the few that knock the west until you have seen it.
My wife showed me an article in a magazine that she read this morning, here are a few of the facts.

GO WEST, LIFE IS VIBRANT.
More than 825 million was spent in 2005/2006 making the west one of Melbournes biggest property earners.
153 million for 755 new homes at Point Cook
101 Million for 562 new homes at Villawood
460 new homes at Caroline Springs
and 266 new homes at neighbouring Cairnlea.

We did visit Caroline Springs but found it too big and I still get lost when I go there. Taylors lakes is nice not to sure about Sydenham
I found work in the west very easily, applied for 2 jobs after settling in our new home and was offered both. NO ONE needs to be out of work over this side of town.
My kids love it here and you would not get them back to the UK. My daughter has a part time job in the city and loves the Melbourne life, my son and his friends get on the train and go in to Melbourne swimming at MSAC, Albert Park and have no problems at all.
Deer Park is OK, my boss from my first job has just moved there. Did I tell you we have the Victorian State Croquet Centre in Cairnlea and that moved from Brighton, have yet to try it but it looks very impressive, The poms where over playing last year, beat the Aussies.
I must say my wife and I and a few other poms get a bit P***** off when people knock the west and go on about jabs etc but every one is entitled to their own opinion. It just miffes me when I think about it and wonder how closely they have looked at the west or even been there or do they just jump on the wagon as the done thing.
MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION :D

That was a great post. We've been looking at the West of Melbourne ourselves, so it was great to read about some other areas. I've been looking at Point Cook and the wonderful houses there, but I think it may be a little far out for us. We want to be near enough to the city that we can take advantage of everything it has to offer. We love the look of Williamstown, but nearby Newport looks to be a bit cheaper, can anyone tell me what that area is like.

Thanks
Dolly :flower:
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Mar 7 2007, 09:27 PM
Hi there
We too had the dream of living in Mornington and spent many hours in the Uk on realestate.com looking at super houses in the area. When we arrived we collected our hire car on the second day and headed off to Mornington in search of the dream house. I have to say the area is beutiful but with 2 children, daughter 18 and son 15 I was concerned about schooling, universaties for my daughter, work for myself in the manufacturing sector. The long drive home after a days house hunting made us seriously look at the area. We were staying in Hawthorn at the time. The thought of that drive every day put me off. My daughter wanted a choice of unis within a short travelling time, I dont think a school for my son would have been a problem. We spent an afternoon in the internet cafe in the CBD looking at properties and came across the west side of town, Willamstown, Caroline Springs etc. After coming from sleepy Devon and seeing what is available in Melbourne and surrounding areas we wanted to be close to the CBD.
Williamstown is nice but we had promised ourselves a new home without breaking the bank. Caroline Springs fitted the bill so we headed out that way along the Ballaret Road. Just after the Western Highway junction we came across a poster board for Cairnlea, show homes open the usual stuff. Within 5 days we were fortunate enough to buy a show home right next door to a 5 acre lake, (my wife now has ducks, swamp hens etc at the front door at various times of the day looking for bread.) The Cairnlea town centre is now open with Coles etc and Brimbank mall is 3 mins down the road and is a brilliant mall. We also have a new primary school. Highpoint mall is 10 min drive. My daughter was able to choose 4 uni for her VTAC application all within a 30 min drive, we are 15-20 mins from the CBD DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF DAY. We have so much available to us within a short commute. My son plays tennis for Keilor and we travel around the West with him on a saturday morning and the people are really friendly. My son goes to a state school and is getting a far better education than he was in the UK. My daughter sat her year 12 exams in a stae school and gained an enter score that got her a place at Vic Uni studying Business IT.(she loves computers)
What I am trying to say is dont be put off by the few that knock the west until you have seen it.
My wife showed me an article in a magazine that she read this morning, here are a few of the facts.

GO WEST, LIFE IS VIBRANT.
More than 825 million was spent in 2005/2006 making the west one of Melbournes biggest property earners.
153 million for 755 new homes at Point Cook
101 Million for 562 new homes at Villawood
460 new homes at Caroline Springs
and 266 new homes at neighbouring Cairnlea.

We did visit Caroline Springs but found it too big and I still get lost when I go there. Taylors lakes is nice not to sure about Sydenham
I found work in the west very easily, applied for 2 jobs after settling in our new home and was offered both. NO ONE needs to be out of work over this side of town.
My kids love it here and you would not get them back to the UK. My daughter has a part time job in the city and loves the Melbourne life, my son and his friends get on the train and go in to Melbourne swimming at MSAC, Albert Park and have no problems at all.
Deer Park is OK, my boss from my first job has just moved there. Did I tell you we have the Victorian State Croquet Centre in Cairnlea and that moved from Brighton, have yet to try it but it looks very impressive, The poms where over playing last year, beat the Aussies.
I must say my wife and I and a few other poms get a bit P***** off when people knock the west and go on about jabs etc but every one is entitled to their own opinion. It just miffes me when I think about it and wonder how closely they have looked at the west or even been there or do they just jump on the wagon as the done thing.
MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION :D

Excellent and informative post if you don't mind me saying. I've been almost a lone voice in the wildnerness about Melbourne's best kept secret for those thinking of moving there - it's west. I can understand the attractions of the south east but I don't understand the blinkered view that it is the only place to go.

I posted a couple of articles in another thread so will repeat them for info:

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/02/...2338625778.html

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2007/02/...338625791.html#

I know what you mean about Caroline Springs but each time I go there I am more impressed with it as a community as more shops, schools, parks, play areas etc get developed; Cairnlea I must admit I've only driven past; Point Cook, Sanctuary Lakes, Wyndham Vale and so on are worth considering. Just to throw some other areas into the mix - one of the fastest growing areas is Gisborne. Think nice sized country town 20 mins from the edge of the city, lovely countryside (views of Mt Macedon).

Williamstown is expensive but these views would be 3 times the price in say Brighton (and the views that side aren't as good anyway):

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Love the picture, wish we were there now. At the moment I'm looking out the window at another rainy (and windy) day in Ireland.

Dolly :umbrella:
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Yep, we've discussed Westport before, I can give you an equally lovely picture in a different sense, without the rain from there (without wishing to run the risk of the 'content police' who lock threads that wander off topic!)

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It's a lovely sunny, spring-like day here in SW Scotland so your weather must be heading our way! This is close to where I sit:

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Now, getting back to Newport which as you know is the next suburb to Williamstown. Property prices there have skyrocketed, like in many adjoining suburbs because of what I would call the 'Williamstown ripple effect'. There has been a lot of property bought up and modernised and extended. It is of course further inland and therefore a mile or so from the water but W'town has 3 water frontages and it means you have city views, swimming beach and a look to the SE suburbs close by.

I have to be honest and say, and I have to be careful on a forum of this nature but how shall I say it? There's a pretty high percentage of migrants living in Newport! It is popular with southern Europeans in particular and where churches dominated, mosques now do (quite a few Lebanese, Turks etc). Don't see this as a big problem, I think it is only fair to point out that the ethnic composition of Newport is very much different to Williamstown, a mile or two away. I should also say, as is often the case that the desirable and most expensive property is on the east (ie city, W'town, water side) of the railway line and less so to the west (inland) side of the railway line.

It has a few good shopping strips, a train station, with trains every 20 mins which take 20 mins to get to the city; easy access to the western ring road and the Westgate Bridge (busy at peak times but outside this you can literally leave Newport and be in the centre of the city within 15 mins by road. If you want any further info just let me know and I can comment on particular streets or roads if you are looking at property.

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Thanks for the reply. Westport looks lovely, I had forgotten what it looked like without the rain :rofl: it feels like it hasn't stopped raining here for about four months!! with the odd little dry spell in the middle. We can see two new "lakes" from our house :( We actully live outside Castlebar, near the Pontoon Lakes, if you've ever been out that direction. But OH family live in Westport so we are over there quite a lot. Its really depressing to watch the weather report and be told there is a band of rain moving across Ireland at present .... and behind that is another band of rain!!!!!! Hay ho, aparently we might be getting snow on Friday :cross:

Thanks for the info on Newport, we really would like to live in that direction, but not going too far out. Williamstown would be my favourite place at the moment, but we really won't know until we get there. Once we get there we'll get a car and have a really good look around.

I was looking at Taylors Lake on realestate.com.au, wow, they have some nice houses there, and not too pricey.

Thanks again
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Mar 8 2007, 01:06 AM
Thanks for the reply. Westport looks lovely, I had forgotten what it looked like without the rain :rofl: it feels like it hasn't stopped raining here for about four months!! with the odd little dry spell in the middle. We can see two new "lakes" from our house :( We actully live outside Castlebar, near the Pontoon Lakes, if you've ever been out that direction. But OH family live in Westport so we are over there quite a lot. Its really depressing to watch the weather report and be told there is a band of rain moving across Ireland at present .... and behind that is another band of rain!!!!!! Hay ho, aparently we might be getting snow on Friday :cross:

Thanks for the info on Newport, we really would like to live in that direction, but not going too far out. Williamstown would be my favourite place at the moment, but we really won't know until we get there. Once we get there we'll get a car and have a really good look around.

I was looking at Taylors Lake on realestate.com.au, wow, they have some nice houses there, and not too pricey.

Thanks again
Dolly :flower:

Yep, I know where you are. For some reason we haven't actually looked in Castlebar, just driven through it countless times. We always get the ferry from Stranraer to Belfast and then drive to Westport, through Castlebar.

Yep also, as you say, do some homework from afar but wait until you are there and can see the areas first hand. Pick up a nice big house in Taylors Lake, dump it twice as far from the city to the east or south east and you'll pay more for it is a way to put it. (As I guess would happen to your house if it was in Galway or perish the thought Dublin 4). OK, it's flattish ground, it's inland and not near the sea but you get a place which is excellent VFM and not too far from the city in commute times - well worth checking out.

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I'd love to pick up my house and put it beside my mum and dad's house in Richmond, Surrey - I'd be an instant millionaire :rofl: :rofl:
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DON'T go west, it's flat, it's industrial and there aren't any nice beaches.

It's mainly all new estates which are characterless.

It's cheap for a reason. It's also the last part of Melbourne developed for a reason.

Yes you can get a nice big house at a cheap price but there'll be nothing around it.

You can't be unemployed in the west is an outrageous claim based on that poster being offered two jobs.
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Why because I live in the west and don't have a job and disagree with what you say?

This forum is all about opinions, you gave yours I gave mine.

I'm sure the OP wanted only the the good ones :rolleyes:

Oh and as I've lived in the west for 18 months I have been there and am entitled to my own opinion and made my own decision as you asked.

Result? I got abused.
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The only way to find out about suburbs is to drive around the area once your here & get a feel for them.

I know I take a dig at the west to but its with tongue in cheek.

I don't like Dandenong or Springvale over here in the East but I'm sure there are people out there who don't mind them at all.

As the saying goes "One mans meat is another mans poison".
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The only way to find out about suburbs is to drive around the area once your here & get a feel for them.



As the saying goes "One mans meat is another mans poison".

Absolutely, but good to have positives and negatives without anyone throwing their toys out of the pram.
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DON'T go west, it's flat, it's industrial and there aren't any nice beaches.

It's mainly all new estates which are characterless.

It's cheap for a reason. It's also the last part of Melbourne developed for a reason.

Yes you can get a nice big house at a cheap price but there'll be nothing around it.

You can't be unemployed in the west is an outrageous claim based on that poster being offered two jobs.

I agree with Fraser on this. We've only lived in the west for 6 months but we are looking to move "to the other side" once the lease on our rental ends.

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fraser
Mar 8 2007, 06:33 AM
DON'T go west, it's flat, it's industrial and there aren't any nice beaches.

It's mainly all new estates which are characterless.

It's cheap for a reason. It's also the last part of Melbourne developed for a reason.

Yes you can get a nice big house at a cheap price but there'll be nothing around it.

You can't be unemployed in the west is an outrageous claim based on that poster being offered two jobs.

I agree with Fraser on this. We've only lived in the west for 6 months but we are looking to move "to the other side" once the lease on our rental ends.

Lisa :waving:

Get a life :blink: ;)
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I think you dropped something Fraser........a toy from your pram perhaps :Grin: ;)

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I think you dropped something Fraser........a toy from your pram perhaps :Grin: ;)

Lisa :waving:

I know mate I don't get it. He loves it here and good luck to him. I don't I see it in a different light yet I was abused.

It would have been nice if he could have given me the courtesy of a reply though.
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In my post I did put that everyone has their own opinion. I have not replied to your PM as I dont wish to pursue this on a personal level. We are quiet happy here in the west and I am just fed up with all the negativity towards life here.
I am sorry you chose to live in a place thats not suitable for you, where schools do not meet your requirments and where you have been unable to find suitable employment but not all in the west have had similar experiences. To project such negativity in my opinion is just not helpful, and Im afraid you have done this on every occasion that I have posted a reply about the west. Ive also noted that when other people have mentioned the west in a positive voice you always add negitive feed back perhaps it would be preferable not to answer any queries regarding the west but I didnt think that this is what the forum is all about.
Time for tea Cheers :bow:
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Fraser
In my post I did put that everyone has their own opinion. I have not replied to your PM as I dont wish to pursue this on a personal level. We are quiet happy here in the west and I am just fed up with all the negativity towards life here.
I am sorry you chose to live in a place thats not suitable for you, where schools do not meet your requirments and where you have been unable to find suitable employment but not all in the west have had similar experiences. To project such negativity in my opinion is just not helpful, and Im afraid you have done this on every occasion that I have posted a reply about the west. Ive also noted that when other people have mentioned the west in a positive voice you always add negitive feed back perhaps it would be preferable not to answer any queries regarding the west but I didnt think that this is what the forum is all about.
Time for tea Cheers :bow:

Well that's better. They now have more than one perspective you have mentioned what you thought were the positives, I the negatives which just goes to prove it really doesn't matter what either of us say they'll either like it or they wont.

I don't understand how you can get so worked up that people don't like it, surely if you do that is all that matters.
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Mar 8 2007, 06:33 AM
DON'T go west, it's flat, it's industrial and there aren't any nice beaches.

It's mainly all new estates which are characterless.

It's cheap for a reason. It's also the last part of Melbourne developed for a reason.

Yes you can get a nice big house at a cheap price but there'll be nothing around it.

You can't be unemployed in the west is an outrageous claim based on that poster being offered two jobs.

The person asking has a tradesperson OH who will be looking for work - plenty of new estates being built = plenty of work for a plasterer.

The west is NOT the last developed part of Melbourne. For example, Footscray, Yarraville etc were well established when to the east Melbourne ended at Toorak. Williamstown was the first settled part (1835) and was to be where the city centre was but it was moved up the Yarra River because of a lack of fresh water but it still has the best port. Station Pier and Princes Pier were built where they were only because the first railway line from Sandridge (Port Melbourne) to Flinders St was easier and cheaper to build than building a longer railway over the yet to be drained area between the Saltwater or Maribyronong River and the Freshwater or Yarra River which is now Docklands Fwy, used to be New Footscray Rd.

Werribee was established soon after 1835 (by the Chirnside family from Berwickshire) and there were farms all the way between there and John Batman's village on the Yarra. What is now Hoppers Crossing, Point Cook etc was settled early on. Altona, early on; Sunshine, early on. What you are probably referring to is the development in between which is going to eventually make it built up all the way to Werribee. The petrochemical industry to the north of Altona and the agricultural machinery industry (Combine Harvester) industry around Sunshine long pre-date all the new SE suburbs.

Blah, blah, blah, clearly you are unaware of history.

Yes, anyone knows that flat land is more suitable for industrial development than the land in the foothills of the Great Dividing Range. That's why industries to the SE were established at Dandenong and Springvale - flat and beyond the edge of suburbia. Melbourne now extends 20 miles further on from the Heinz and GM factories built there in the late 60's/70's. In other words the areas that are most popular with new settlers are among the newer settled areas of Melbourne. Previous generations went for a trip in the country to Frankston and 'civilisation' ended at Mordialloc where Beach Rd ends and the Nepean Hwy follows the railway line - and that wasn't so long ago. A real treat was to go right out into the country for a bush race meeting at Cranbourne or Packenham!

(not referring to you) but 'nothing to do' to me usually has more to do with people than places. There's much to do anywhere.

That'll do for now just to stir the hornet's nest!

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Fraser, the beaches round the East are definitely wilder and more resorty but I did really like the beach you took us to in Altona.

More of a city beach I know, but it ain't too shabby none the less -

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