dolly

Mar 12 2007, 08:30 PM

OzTennis

Mar 12 2007, 07:16 PM

dolly

Mar 10 2007, 04:13 AM

MIL and FIL are going there this weekend, so I'll see what MIL has to say on Monday !!  :o

Dolly :flower:

P.S. Just to keep on topic, do they have an castles in Taylors Lakes and Deer Park :ph43r:

No, not one at Deer Park or Taylor's Lakes but one not a million miles away nr Ballarat!

http://www.ballarat.com/kryal.htm

OzTennis :flag:

I don't believe it!! :rofl: :rofl: I was only joking :rofl:

dolly

Mar 12 2007, 10:12 PM

Its great to see they have kept it as authentic as possible! Especially the pub style sign on the front, and the lovely tents on the roof!! :rofl:

What part of Scotland are in you OzT, my mother comes from Isle of Bute on the west coast.

Dolly :flower:

Bordy

Mar 12 2007, 11:34 PM

I used to go over to Rothesay for my holidays when I was a wee boy. :D

dolly

Mar 13 2007, 12:03 AM

Bordy

Mar 12 2007, 11:34 PM

I used to go over to Rothesay for my holidays when I was a wee boy.  :D

I spent many many holidays there as a wee girl. :D Spent most of my time horse riding.

Aparently it was the place for glaswegans to go before package holidays. When my mum was growing up there it was very busy and you could hardly get a deck chair on the beach. Its a lovely island, but very quiet now. Most of my family have moved away to work.

Dolly :flower:

OzTennis

Mar 13 2007, 12:10 AM

dolly

Mar 13 2007, 12:03 AM

Bordy

Mar 12 2007, 11:34 PM

I used to go over to Rothesay for my holidays when I was a wee boy.  :D

I spent many many holidays there as a wee girl. :D Spent most of my time horse riding.

Aparently it was the place for glaswegans to go before package holidays. When my mum was growing up there it was very busy and you could hardly get a deck chair on the beach. Its a lovely island, but very quiet now. Most of my family have moved away to work.

Dolly :flower:

'Doon the watter' they called it (and still do). Often people travelled by steamship from Glasgow (eg on the Waverley) to places like Rothesay for their annual holidays. On the mainland, places like Largs, Saltcoats, Gourock, were inundated by Glaswegians too. A friend of ours lives in Largs and teaches in the primary school on Cumbrae - gets the ferry to and from work.

OzTennis :flag:

dolly

Mar 13 2007, 12:17 AM

OzTennis

Mar 13 2007, 12:10 AM

dolly

Mar 13 2007, 12:03 AM

Bordy

Mar 12 2007, 11:34 PM

I used to go over to Rothesay for my holidays when I was a wee boy.  :D

I spent many many holidays there as a wee girl. :D Spent most of my time horse riding.

Aparently it was the place for glaswegans to go before package holidays. When my mum was growing up there it was very busy and you could hardly get a deck chair on the beach. Its a lovely island, but very quiet now. Most of my family have moved away to work.

Dolly :flower:

'Doon the watter' they called it (and still do). Often people travelled by steamship from Glasgow (eg on the Waverley) to places like Rothesay for their annual holidays. On the mainland, places like Largs, Saltcoats, Gourock, were inundated by Glaswegians too. A friend of ours lives in Largs and teaches in the primary school on Cumbrae - gets the ferry to and from work.

OzTennis :flag:

They must miss a few days off work in the wintertime then! I remember a few white knuckle rides over on the ferry in the winter.

OzTennis

Mar 8 2007, 12:32 AM

Now, getting back to Newport which as you know is the next suburb to Williamstown.  Property prices there have skyrocketed, like in many adjoining suburbs because of what I would call the 'Williamstown ripple effect'.  There has been a lot of property bought up and modernised and extended.  It is of course further inland and therefore a mile or so from the water but W'town has 3 water frontages and it means you have city views, swimming beach and a look to the SE suburbs close by.

I have to be honest and say, and I have to be careful on a forum of this nature but how shall I say it?  There's a pretty high percentage of migrants living in Newport!  It is popular with southern Europeans in particular and where churches dominated, mosques now do (quite a few Lebanese, Turks etc).  Don't see this as a big problem, I think it is only fair to point out that the ethnic composition of Newport is very much different to Williamstown, a mile or two away.  I should also say, as is often the case that the desirable and most expensive property is on the east (ie city, W'town, water side) of the railway line and less so to the west (inland) side of the railway line.

It has a few good shopping strips, a train station, with trains every 20 mins which take 20 mins to get to the city; easy access to the western ring road and the Westgate Bridge (busy at peak times but outside this you can literally leave Newport and be in the centre of the city within 15 mins by road.  If you want any further info just let me know and I can comment on particular streets or roads if you are looking at property.

OzTennis

Big Bird

Mar 13 2007, 10:31 AM

When we first came out to Melbourne for a recce, we looked at Point Cook/Sanctuary Lakes area and fell in love with the idea of a 35/40 sq house (it was so big and spacious. No thoughts of travelling to work or filling the house with furniture, cost of heating/cooling etc... We worked out our 4 bed house in the UK was approx 12sq, so this was a 'dream'.

After many questions about PC and SL, OzTennis mentioned Williamstown and Newport area, so when we arrived in 2005, we looked at renting a new property in Point Cook/Sanctuary Lakes and also Williamstown/Newport. We ended up in Newport and loved the area.

After making the decision to stay in the Willi/Newport area, we spent many weeks going to open house inpections and auctions. After looking at many renovated Victorian houses, which were stunning and had the original front and a mixture of original and modern interiors, our view changed from the new 35/40sq house to either a renovated property or one that needed renovating. We now own our own house in Newport (on the Strand side) of the tracks, which needs renovating (worst house in a good street :wacko: ).

What I am saying is, don't just look at buying new, think about renovating an old property or looking at a renovated house. I know they are not everyones taste, but these are just a couple fully renovated homes.

http://www.domain.com.au/Public/PropertyDe...adid=2006116796

http://www.domain.com.au/Public/PropertyDe...adid=2006267943

or something to renovate
http://www.domain.com.au/Public/PropertyDe...adid=2006212805

It was interesting what you said about Newport OzT, when we phoned the insurance companies for a quote, they asked if we lived in West Newport??? It seems as though they have split the area by the railway line. I have heard that the Council were thinking of rebanding the eastern side of Newport to Williamstown!!! A large amount of the Strand is currently in Newport, although it seems a lot of people class it as Willi.

Yes I do enjoy living in the West!! There is a lot going on, if you are willing to get off you a@#e and find it. It may be flat, but thats good for cycling :D

We have travelled all around Melbourne with various activities (mainly orienteering) and agree that there are many nice places to live in many parts of Melbourne, it just depends on what you want.

OzT - I have heard the glass monstrosity (medibank mansion :lol: ) is going to be put on the market. They have been working on it for a few weeks, so the council problems must have been resolved!

Well the sun is shining, so time to go out ;)

BB

Big Bird

Mar 13 2007, 10:31 AM

OzTennis

Mar 8 2007, 12:32 AM

Now, getting back to Newport which as you know is the next suburb to Williamstown.  Property prices there have skyrocketed, like in many adjoining suburbs because of what I would call the 'Williamstown ripple effect'.  There has been a lot of property bought up and modernised and extended.  It is of course further inland and therefore a mile or so from the water but W'town has 3 water frontages and it means you have city views, swimming beach and a look to the SE suburbs close by.

I have to be honest and say, and I have to be careful on a forum of this nature but how shall I say it?  There's a pretty high percentage of migrants living in Newport!  It is popular with southern Europeans in particular and where churches dominated, mosques now do (quite a few Lebanese, Turks etc).  Don't see this as a big problem, I think it is only fair to point out that the ethnic composition of Newport is very much different to Williamstown, a mile or two away.  I should also say, as is often the case that the desirable and most expensive property is on the east (ie city, W'town, water side) of the railway line and less so to the west (inland) side of the railway line.

It has a few good shopping strips, a train station, with trains every 20 mins which take 20 mins to get to the city; easy access to the western ring road and the Westgate Bridge (busy at peak times but outside this you can literally leave Newport and be in the centre of the city within 15 mins by road.  If you want any further info just let me know and I can comment on particular streets or roads if you are looking at property.

OzTennis

When we first came out to Melbourne for a recce, we looked at Point Cook/Sanctuary Lakes area and fell in love with the idea of a 35/40 sq house (it was so big and spacious. No thoughts of travelling to work or filling the house with furniture, cost of heating/cooling etc... We worked out our 4 bed house in the UK was approx 12sq, so this was a 'dream'.

After many questions about PC and SL, OzTennis mentioned Williamstown and Newport area, so when we arrived in 2005, we looked at renting a new property in Point Cook/Sanctuary Lakes and also Williamstown/Newport. We ended up in Newport and loved the area.

After making the decision to stay in the Willi/Newport area, we spent many weeks going to open house inpections and auctions. After looking at many renovated Victorian houses, which were stunning and had the original front and a mixture of original and modern interiors, our view changed from the new 35/40sq house to either a renovated property or one that needed renovating. We now own our own house in Newport (on the Strand side) of the tracks, which needs renovating (worst house in a good street :wacko: ).

What I am saying is, don't just look at buying new, think about renovating an old property or looking at a renovated house. I know they are not everyones taste, but these are just a couple fully renovated homes.

http://www.domain.com.au/Public/PropertyDe...adid=2006116796

http://www.domain.com.au/Public/PropertyDe...adid=2006267943

or something to renovate
http://www.domain.com.au/Public/PropertyDe...adid=2006212805

It was interesting what you said about Newport OzT, when we phoned the insurance companies for a quote, they asked if we lived in West Newport??? It seems as though they have split the area by the railway line. I have heard that the Council were thinking of rebanding the eastern side of Newport to Williamstown!!! A large amount of the Strand is currently in Newport, although it seems a lot of people class it as Willi.

Yes I do enjoy living in the West!! There is a lot going on, if you are willing to get off you a@#e and find it. It may be flat, but thats good for cycling :D

We have travelled all around Melbourne with various activities (mainly orienteering) and agree that there are many nice places to live in many parts of Melbourne, it just depends on what you want.

OzT - I have heard the glass monstrosity (medibank mansion :lol: ) is going to be put on the market. They have been working on it for a few weeks, so the council problems must have been resolved!

Well the sun is shining, so time to go out ;)

BB

jaxandpaul

Mar 14 2007, 05:31 PM

Crikey! Green grass I haven't seen that in a long time :o

dolly

Mar 13 2007, 07:38 PM

Hi BB

Great info. We'll be looking for a house ourselves to renovate and we really like the look of Williamstown/Newport and surrounding areas.

We were also looking at the houses (on the net) in Point Cook, and although they look great, we think they might be a bit far out for us. We live in the country at the moment and have to go everywhere by car, so we want to be a little nearer to everything now.

Just looking forward to getting there and having a really good look around. :D

OzTennis

Mar 13 2007, 08:47 PM

Very interesting BB and pleased to see my info was of some use to you! :D

I find it hard to understand why a high percentage of incomers via BV's and BE's just think SE, Mornington Peninsula etc without properly considering all the options. I've nothing against that area and I know the 'ghetto effect' is strong of wanting to be near alike people and all that but the 'west is flat, industrial, not worth looking at' etc comments (particularly from people who've never been there or explored all the different parts) seem to put people off.

As you say there are options other than new house in an estate and the 'renovators delight' of the estate agent speak is worth considering as is a house which has just been renovated. Another option is what I call the 'big house on the small block' option eg Williamstown Junction or The Rifle Range, both of which you will be familiar with. Quite expensive houses and not for those on the sub $400K budget but given that the Melbourne median is now $390K, you don't have to pay much over the median to get a decent property in Newport/W'town.

Interesting you should say about the boundary between Newport and Williamstown. It used to be on The Strand that Yarra St was the boundary between the 2 and houses on the north side of Yarra St were in N and south side in W. The boundary was moved about 5 years ago. Thus, the 4 townhouses at #57 The Strand, the 2 to the left are in Williamstown and the 2 to the right are in Newport!!

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Incidentally it was the 2nd left which was for sale and it went from memory for just under or just over $1 mill - 4 B/R townhouse but you're mainly paying for the view which literally is a million dollar view at night:

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Our property 'moved' from 3015 (Newport) to 3016 (Williamstown) and went up in value just because of the different postcode and address!

Interesting too to hear about the 'glass monstrosity' which we 'spoke' about previously I seem to remember. This photo was taken looking towards it - with my feet in Newport and looking at Williamstown!!

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OzTennis :flag:

OzTennis

Mar 12 2007, 08:21 PM

Nice pics and works fine.  If you want them to appear in the thread rather than a link (like I did) you copy the IMG against your photo (but it does take up space on the server so don't post too many that way!)

OzTennis  :flag:

OzTennis

Mar 19 2007, 09:09 PM

Rose Grange Estate but not the area was a new one on me.  (as a child I can remember the paddocks out that way being great for getting mushrooms after a bit of rain - now it doesn't rain much!)

Just to tie in with the Melways/UBD thread I see their website says:

Rose Grange is located in Tarneit, West of Melbourne.
Mel Ref. 202 J6.  :D

How far is it from Westbourne School?  (my 2 nephews go there and we've been a few school concerts).

The Western Ring Road (with its links to Princes Hwy) has done wonders for access for the western suburbs.

OzTennis  :flag: